For many Giuliano Kremmerz is still quite unknown. Well, today’s guest David Pantano has set out to change this, and today we want to do a step together in that direction. And the topic is worth it! Kremmerz tried to create a Hermetic School that is much less arcane that some of his contemporary occultists wanted it to be. Naples and Egypt, including Egyptian Freemasonry play a role in all that.

Also, to me Kremmerz’ approach sounds also partly Rosicrucian, which in the context is surprising. But there are reaons for that, we hear. And of course, he did not come out of the blue, there is a long tradition of Western Esotericism, also influenced by antiquity and its history. David has published a book on that story as well and in this talk we are going to link history to Kremmerz’ time. But we will also ask: what came after?

A lot to cover, and I think it became a highly interesting talk with a person who is extremely knowledgable: David Pantano!

David Pantano is an independent researcher, translator, historian, and writer specializing in spirituality, metaphysics, philosophy, and the initiatic practices of West and East. Author of The Magic Door, he lives in Toronto.


You probably realized that since Season 6 these newsletters have changed dramatically and become nice texts about the content of the episode with some detailed remarks on the topic. And this was/is thanks to my friend Ursula, whom I mentioned several times here and whom I really want to thank once again.

Her day job has grown considerably lately, and she is also the mother of two young children. That means that in the near future at least she will only be able to cover a show once in a while and she will continue to do that. But no longer on a weekly basis.

So I thought I would invite YOU, the listeners, to do it in her place. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED to write an English text about the episode and the interview in advance, which then becomes the newsletter and part of the show notes on, PLEASE CONTACT ME at, and I will get in touch with you.

Those of you who show real interest will get to know the upcoming guests and subjects a few weeks in advance, and if you pick an interview, you will receive the “raw” sound file as soon as I have recorded the interview (usually one to three weeks in advance). You listen to it and you write your article about that episode.

In return – well, I cannot offer any payment. But I will present a short portrait of the author on the website, in the newsletter, and also in the show intro itself.

INTERESTED? I hope so! Do make yourself known! And this does not need to be a one-off, if you feel happy doing this from time to time, this would be wonderful


Music played in this episode

This episode is all about Italy, or at least about the geographic area that today we call Italy. So I thought I’d bring you an – admittedly VERY eclectic –  choice of music: all from the Italic Peninsula, but from completely diverse origins and time periods!


what a nice Foxtrott from Italy, a beautiful blend of American influence and southern European charm! With an unnamed orchestra, recorded in … 1926! (this is why the sound sounds old…), so from the times of Giuliano Kremmerz!

(Track starts at [7:17])

2) MUSICA ROMANA – Pugnate

Music as it sounded back during the Roman Empire, played by a contemporary musical research group

(Track starts at [57:28])


You all know what a Tarantella is, right? If not, it’s about time to find out!

(Track starts at [1:36:42])

Intro and Outro Music
especially written and recorded for the Thoth-Hermes Podcast by Chris Roberts

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