Rudolf has the pleasure to welcome David Shoemaker on this new episode in a fascinating talk not only about O.T.O. and A.:A.:


Dr. David Shoemaker is a clinical psychologist in private practice, specializing in Jungian and cognitive-behavioral psychotherapy. David is the Chancellor and Prolocutor of the Temple of the Silver Star. He has been a member of O.T.O. and a student of A∴A∴ since 1993, and he has more than twenty years of experience supervising students in these organizations.

David was the compiler of the TOTSS publication, Jane Wolfe: The Cefalu Diaries 1920-1923, and a co-editor of the collections of the writings of Phyllis Seckler (Soror Meral), The Thoth Tarot, Astrology, & Other Selected Writings, The Kabbalah, Magick, and Thelema. Selected Writings Volume II, and Collected Poems 1946-1996. He was also the co-editor of the collection of correspondence published as Karl Germer: Selected Letters 1928-1962. His popular book Living Thelema: A Practical Guide to Attainment in Aleister Crowley’s System of Magick, followed on the success of the podcast of the same name. 

Have also a look at ThelemaCon, organized by David!

This is a Thelema-focused conference, which will be an online event this year. It is completely open to the public, and is not sponsored by any particular organization. No affiliation with any organization is required, and all proceeds are used to fund future conferences, with no individuals making a personal profit.

Presenters this year include David Shoemaker, Lon Milo DuQuette and Richard Kaczynski (who have both already appeared on this show!). Admission is $31, and as this is an online event, it would be ideal for interested persons around the world.

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David’s latest book, co-edited with Lon Milo DuQuette, is Llewellyn’s Complete Book of Ceremonial Magick.

David Shoemaker is a Past Master of 418 Lodge, O.T.O. in Sacramento, having succeeded Soror Meral (Phyllis Seckler), his friend and teacher. He also serves as a Sovereign Grand Inspector General of the Order. David was the founding President of the O.T.O. Psychology Guild and a founding member of the Advanced Initiation Training team, and is a frequent speaker at NOTOCON.  A consecrated Bishop of Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica, David led the team that developed the O.T.O. Pastoral Counseling Workshops.

Click here for David Shoemaker’s “Living Thelema”-Website

Stay tuned!

Music played in this episode

In addition to his work in magick and psychology, David is a composer and musician.

Therefore we have the pleasure today to play three of his creations in our episode:




(Track 1 starts at [7:33], Track 2 at [46:45], Track 3 at [1:29:01])



Intro and Outro Music
especially written and recorded for the Thoth-Hermes Podcast by Chris Roberts

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